Thursday, August 17, 2017

AL: Domestic Dispute, Male Shot, Self Defense Claimed

Investigators believe the shooting was the result of an on-going domestic dispute between Nave and the female resident. At some point Nave threatened the other male subject with a weapon, which led to the shooting.

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NY: Gunfight, 70-Year-Old Employee hit, fires back

Police said the two suspects armed with handguns forced two employees into the station’s service area, where the a third employee, a 70-year-old man, tried to get away from them.

As the employee ran out, police said the suspects fired several shots at him. That’s when police said the employee pulled out his own gun and returned fire. The 70-year-old man was hit in the leg as the suspects fled.
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FL: Teen Held at Gunpoint by Armed Victim


A Cape Coral teen, fueled by drugs, is accused of terrorizing his neighborhood, landing him on the wrong end of a gun and a Taser.

Cape Coral Police said Tuan Nguyen broke into two homes near Diplomat Parkway Sunday evening.NBC2 spoke with a victim who caught the teen in the act and held him at gunpoint until police came.
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TX: Fight Outside Bar ended in Claimed Self Defense Shooting

Crowson said officers talked with the shooter and witnesses who said a fight in the bar continued in the parking lot of strip-mall establishment whose website bills itself as "a true Texas icehouse."

The shooter said he fired in self-defense, the lieutenant said, adding that police would confer with prosecutors before deciding what, if any, charges should be filed.
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Wednesday, August 16, 2017

Australian Gun Culture (part 15): Prohibited Weapons in Australia

In Australia, I became aware of an administrative procedure where the state police can find a person unfit to possess either firearms, firearms parts, or prohibited weapons. What exactly were prohibited weapons under Australian law? This website lists prohibited weapons.

The list is extensive and, from an American perspective, bizarre. Some of the weapons are antiquated. Others are modern, while some may be simple mistakes or misunderstandings.  I have studied weapons law of many American states. It appears that someone in Australia (probably the George Soros funded group that was headed by Rebecca Peters) looked up all the prohibited weapons they could find in law, anywhere, and lumped them all together on the prohibited list. I have edited the list to take out duplication.

 Here is the list of prohibited weapons, in italics. My comments are in standard print.  From
Miscellaneous Weapons:
*Missile launchers:

any device that is designed to propel or launch a bomb, grenade, rocket or missile by any means other than an explosive.
No air propelled rockets or water balloon launchers. No potato launchers. No hobby rockets or model rockets.  It appears that a simple sling is prohibited. No biblical era missile launchers allowed. If the term "missile" below excludes simple rocks or solid objects, the above may be allowed.  I hope that is the interpretation the police would use. Bows seem to be commonly available and unregulated except for crossbows.
Bomb, grenade, rocket, missile or mine:

or any similar device which expels or contains an explosive, incendiary, irritant or gas. 
Flame thrower:

that is of military design or any other device that is capable of projecting ignited incendiary fuel.

or any similar device consisting of a bow fitted transversely on a stock that has a groove or barrel designed to direct an arrow or bolt. 
Sling shot

a device consisting of an elasticised band secured to the forks of a Y shaped frame other than a home made sling shot for use by a child in the course of play.
Cross bows prohibited? Not just forbidden to use in urban areas, as in many American cities. Outright prohibited. Slingshots prohibited? I suspect this came from the American 19th century prohibition on slung shot, which is a totally different weapon, favored by 19th century criminals. To be fair, some Australian states prohibit commercial slingshots, but allow homemade ones for use "by children".  Very weird.

or any other similar article that consists of a club or staff fitted with a flanged or spiked head, other than a ceremonial mace made for and used solely as a symbol of authority on ceremonial occasions.
So, a club or staff without a flanged or spiked head is not prohibited? Perhaps they did not want to outlaw sticks, baseball bats, or cricket bats.


or any other similar article that consists of a staff or handle that has fitted to one end, by any means, a freely swinging striking part that is armed with spikes or studded with any protruding matter.

that has a lash which is comprised wholly or partly of any form of metal.
Cat-o’-nine tails:

or any other whip that consists of a handle to which there is attached any number of knotted lashes.
King fu sticks or ‘nunchaku’:

or any other article consisting of two or more sticks or bars made of any material that are joined together by any means that allows the sticks or bars to swing independently of each other.
The actual slung shot does not seem to fit any of these descriptions. Perhaps it is not prohibited.
Side-handled baton:

or any other article consisting of a baton, staff or rod that is made of any hard substance and has fitted to one side a handle, whether or not that handle is permanently fixed. 

or any other similar article that is made of any hard substance and that can be fitted over the knuckles of the hand of the user to protect.

Taser Self-Defence Weapon:

Any hand-held device that is designed to administer an electric shock on contact, such as the Taser Self-Defence Weapon or an electrified brief-case, but do not include any such hand-held device that may lawfully be used on an animal in accordance with the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. 
*Extendable or Telescopic Baton:

or any article consisting of a baton, staff or rod that is made of any hard substance and has fitted to one side a handle, whether or not that handle is permanently fixed.
I will ask people at the Shot Show in Brisbane about this. Walking sticks or canes are not prohibited. Why the obsession with side handles? Probably from all the publicity given to PR-24 batons.
*Devices designed to stun or disorient people by emitting noise and light:
(known as sound & flash grenades)

any acoustic or light emitting anti-personal device that is designed to cause permanent or temporary incapacity or to otherwise disorientate persons.
 Are camera flashes included? I hope not. It is interesting that the emphasis seems to be on anything that may be used as a weapon, but which logically extends to nearly everything. Personal noise alarms are right out.
Miscellaneous articles:
Body armour vests:

or other similar articles designed for anti-ballistic purposes and to be worn on any part of the body (other than helmets or anti-ballistic articles used for eye or hearing protection).

(other than antique handcuffs, or children’s toy handcuffs that are of an approved type).

or any other device designed for attachment to a firearm for the purpose of muffling, reducing or stopping the noise created by firing the firearm.
Flex ties are not regulated, nor are rope, chains, or locks, as far as I can determine.
Replicas, imitations, concealed blades: 
Walking stick or cane:

that contains a sword or any other single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or of any material.
Riding crop:

that contains a knife, stiletto or any other single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or material.
Bowen Knife Belt:

or any other similar article consisting of a belt or buckle that conceals or disguises within the article a knife or a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or of any material.
Concealed knives:

any article or device that:a) due to its appearance is capable of being mistaken for something else that is not a weapon, and

b) disguises and conceals within it a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike of any length or of any material.
So concealed or disguised knives are not allowed. There are similar regulations in many states.
Replica or imitation firearms:

an imitation of any firearm which requires a licence or permit under the Firearms Act, unless approved by the Commissioner of Police.
Imitation or replica of a bomb, grenade, rocket, missile or mine:

unless approved by the Commissioner of Police.
At least one person has been prosecuted for having a replica gun. I do not see this sort of statute in many places. Even England allows replica and non-firing guns. A model of a bomb or pistol is illegal unless allowed by the Commissioner of Police. The inverse of the idea of English and American law, where everything is allowed, except what is prohibited. Here, everything is prohibited, except what is allowed. All the prohibited weapons are allowed if you can wrangle a permission slip from the police.
Flick knife:(or other similar device)

a blade which opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by any pressure applied to a button, spring or device in or attached to the handle of the knife.
*Ballistic knife:

a knife that propels a knife-like blade of any material by any means other than an explosive.
Sheath knife:

a knife which has a sheath which withdraws into its handle by gravity or centrifugal force or if pressure is applied to a button, spring or device attached to or forming part of the sheath, handle or blade of the knife.
Urban Skinner push dagger:

or any other device that consists of a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike that has a handle fitted transversely to the blade or spike and allows the blade or spike to be supported by the palm of the hand so that stabbing blows or slashes can be inflicted by a punching or pushing action.
Trench knife:

or any other device that consists of a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike that is fitted with a handle made of any hard substance that can be fitted over the knuckles of the hand of the user to protect the knuckles and increase the effect of a punch or blow, or that is adapted for such use.
Butterfly knife or ‘balisong’:

or any other device that consists of a single-edged or multi-edged blade or spike that fits within two handles attached to the blade or spike by transverse pivot pins and is capable of being opened by gravity or centrifugal force.
Star knife:

or any other device that consists of a number of angular points, blades or spikes disposed outwardly about a central axis point and that are designed to spin around the central axis point in flight when thrown at a target.
What did they miss? No prohibition on blow guns. That may be covered elsewhere.  Sap gloves? They do not appear to fit any of the definitions. Australia has a very mild climate. I expect that gloves would tend to stand out. Most knives, axes, machetes, swords, and walking sticks are not prohibited in Australia, though swords owners are required to have a license in Victoria. The classic atl-atl or woomera spear throwing stick is not mentioned.

A person can walk around with a machete in hand, a knife on their belt or a sword in a sheath if they can give a police officer a reasonable reason for having the article. Self defense is not considered a reasonable reason.

Prohibited weapons vary somewhat by Australian state. A form of sling shot that does not use a Y fork is acceptable in New South Wales. It is the Pocket Shot. Some states appear to have only limited restrictions on sling shots, such as forbidding a wrist brace.

These sort of overbroad laws are often ignored. The discretion of the police officer or officers becomes extremely important. The rule of law becomes the rule of man. Fortunately, Australian police have been very polite and reasonable people, at least those that I had interaction with.

It seems that Alexis de Tocqueville's prediction in "Democracy in America" from 1835 is fulfilled in Australia:
After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the government then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small, complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence: it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.
It seems strange for a nation of such vast frontiers, such tremendous resources, to be so bound up in small laws and restrictions. It is happening all over Western civilization. Try buying an incandescent bulb in the United States, or to design and build your own house.

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SC: Man Shot in Self Defense, Carjacks Truck

LEXINGTON, S.C. (AP) — Authorities say a South Carolina man got shot for threatening people with a pressure washer, then punched a woman in the face while stealing a truck he later crashed.

Lexington County Sheriff Jay Koon said 27-year-old Mark Day of Summerville is charged with four counts of assault and battery and two counts of carjacking.
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FL: Man Shoots 1 of 4 Home Invaders

According to the Marion County Sheriff’s Office, deputies were called to the home in connection with an armed home invasion.

The victim said that he was about to go to bed when four masked people entered his home and injured his dog.

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VA: Burglary Suspect Shot by Homeowner

HAMPTON, Va. (WVEC) -- Police say a man is recovering in the hospital after he allegedly broke into a Hampton residence and was subsequently shot by the homeowner.

Police were called to the 1st block of Kilverstone Way shortly before 4:30 a.m. Tuesday. Upon arrival, officers found a 22-year-old Newport News man suffering from a single gunshot wound. He was taken to a local hospital to be treated for non-life threatening injuries.
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IL: Homeowner Who Shot, Killed Three Under Investigation

The homeowner initially told officers he shot three people who had broken into his home, but police said there are “inconsistencies” in the man’s statements. A police source said a witness told investigators the three people who were killed had been at the house all day.

Investigators have confirmed the homeowner has a valid Firearm Owners Identification card. They also said he was being held for questioning Monday morning, but police have not said if he will face murder charges.
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Tuesday, August 15, 2017

Australia Gun Culture (part 14): Shooters, Fishers, and Farmers Party Having an Impact

Extremely restrictive firearms laws were imposed on the Australian population in 1996, after the Port Arthur Massacre. The Australian gun culture is fighting to restore some sanity to firearm law down under. One of the clampdowns put in place in 1996, was to make ownership of .22 rimfire semi-auto rifles so restricted as to be an effective ban.

The combined firearms council of Victoria is calling for the return of their bunny guns.  From

The state’s peak political body for Victoria’s shooting organisations is calling on the state government to allow shooters to use 22 self-loading rifles after a 20 year ban.

The Combined Firearms Council of Victoria says it has written to the Premier urging him to reconsider the state’s position in light of shooters’ concerns.

Council President, Bill Paterson, said the move would be entirely reasonable, arguing 22 rifles are in reality, “bunny guns”, and bore no resemblance to military style rifles of the type which led to the ban in 1996.

“For a start the 22 rifle has significantly less firepower than what you find with larger calibres, and it has a very practical use,” he said.

“22s are used for rabbit vermin pest control and allowing the self-loading rifles back, even if limited to 10 shots, would be a great help in controlling vermin numbers without posing any public danger”

He said the ban on self-loading rifles occurred after the shootings in Port Arthur in 1996, in a state which had very few controls over firearms when other states already had effective licensing and limitations.

“The problem is the political response back in 1996 did not take any of these factors into account when it should have. The loss of the 22 self-loading rifle was at the top of shooters’ concerns in a recent survey we conducted and their return would go a long way to providing a better balance in firearm regulation”.

He said the issue of 22 self-loading firearms will remain high on the Council’s list of priorities for the 2018 Victorian State Election.
Because Australia has proportional voting system, small parties can elect members of parliament.

Australian shooters have shown an ability  to reform some of the more extreme parts of Australian gun law. A new gun amnesty was discussed for 2017. The Shooters, Fishers, and Farmers party was able to include a couple of reasonable policies.

One was that people who found themselves in possession of unregistered guns that were otherwise legal, had the option of registering the guns. Nearly everyone recognizes that as a reasonable position. Most people believe that legal gun owners should be able to register an old, otherwise legal, gun, at any time. It only brings an unregistered gun into the gun registry.

Only the extreme anti-gun people believe that it is acceptable for someone to register a new gun from a factory, but not an old gun found in an attic.

The other policy was for people to arrange for a gun store to sell a gun that had not been registered. Remember, that the only acceptable gun registration for existing guns was that one time allowance 20 years ago.  If a family member finds great-grandpa's classic double rifle worth $30,000, she should be able to sell it rather than be forced to turn it over to the police to be destroyed.

About twice as many firearms are being registered in the new amnesty as those that are being turned in for destruction.

Another far reaching regulation is that parents are not allowed to teach their children how to use guns without a permit individually issued for each child. That permit is only allowed for children 12 or over in NSW.   The limit in Queensland is 11 years.  In Western Australia, there is no age limit.

In NSW, the Shooters, Fishers, and Farmers party is advocating a reform to lower the age limit to 10 years old, to allow parents to start teaching their children gun safety at the younger age. A minor's permit would still be required for a child to handle a gun.

To people in America, this level of bureaucracy may be difficult to understand. For a parent to teach their child to handle guns in Australia, the parent is required to apply for permission from the government, for that particular child.

If the government approves, a permit will be granted for the child to handle guns under the supervision of the parent or other approved adult.  The reform being put forward in New South Wales is to allow parents, after receiving a permit, to teach 10 year old children to shoot. The current minimum age is 12. The child will not be allowed to handle guns without the parent, or other qualified adult, being present. From
But Mr Donato's party would be "happy" for 10-year-olds to handle guns, and introduce shooting as an elective school subject.

"It's a healthy family activity," Mr Donato said. "It's not gender specific. Going out, spending some time with your family in the outdoors, bonding with your kids, is a fantastic opportunity.

"It's far better they learn how to use firearms appropriately in that sort of manner as opposed to watching movies and playing video games."
These sort of reforms seem obvious to American readers. They make an important point in Australia. The point is that firearms are useful objects, and the use of firearms is a positive thing for children to learn. Under the extreme 1996 gun laws, even BB guns are considered firearms. They are classed with double barreled shotguns in the law.

While shooters are a minority in Australia, they are doing what small parties do best: advocating for reasonable reforms that have solid, logical reasons. A little bit here, a little bit there, and over time, the most stupid parts of the extreme laws from 1996 are reformed. Australia has a small population for a large land mass. Firearms have enormous utility for hunting, pest control and sport shooting.

Perhaps, with time, the most basic use of firearms will be considered. That is self defense. A cornerstone of the 1996 law is that self defense with firearms is not a legitimate purpose for owning a firearm.

The delegitimization of self defense is the cornerstone of the gun control movement in England and Wales, as well as in Canada and Australia. It was a complete break with the Englishman's right to arms that existed in English common law until after WWI.

Once self defense is recognized as a legitimate purpose for owning firearms, the unstated basis of the 1996 law self-demolishes. That basis is explained in a 1984 type slogan: Less guns good, more guns bad. The anti-gun groups baldly state that they believe more people owning guns is a bad thing.

If there were one reform I would recommend Australians to push, it would be: recognize defense of self and others as a legitimate reason to own firearms.

Australia has been and is a very safe country. Australia has a crime rate similar to Vermont or New Hampshire. Most Australians fall prey to the "need" argument, as very few "need" to have a firearm for self defense at any one time. Australians have no problem with their police carrying Glock pistols. The common man is forbidden to carry, or even to own those pistols in most cases.  What the police are carrying pistols for, if not for defense of self and others? The question becomes, is the common man capable of carrying pistols responsibly?

In the United States, the answer is clear. Yes, a person with a clean record is at least as responsible as police officers. In the United States, people with carry permits commit less crimes per person, and have less accidents, than police do.

Fortunately, in the United States, self defense is enshrined in Constitutional law as a primary reason for owning weapons.

America reformed their firearms carry law so that most Americans with clean records can carry firearms for self defense. Over the next 20 years the murder rate dropped in half.

Australia tightened their firearms laws so that ownership required specific reasons, licensing, and many types of firearms were nearly legislated out of legal ownership for most people. The murder rate dropped about the same as in the United States.

New Zealand dropped their firearms registration requirement, the murder rate dropped by about half over the same 20 year period.

Canada imposed universal firearms registration over the same period, then abolished it. Their murder rate fell about the same as the United States, Australia, and New Zealand.

Firearms law has little to do with crime. It has a lot to do with individual freedom, individual responsibility, and the growth of the state.

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TX: Armed Homeowner Captures Carjacking Suspect for Police


An armed homeowner helped the Bexar County Sheriff's Office and Hollywood Park police apprehend a man for allegedly stealing a vehicle Saturday afternoon in Northern Bexar County.
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KS: Man Shot Attempting to Steal a Gun at Pawnshop

WICHITA, Kan. (KWCH) -` A man was shot by a pawn shop employee in Wichita on Saturday while he was trying to steal a gun

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MI: Armed Victim Stops Assault on Woman, Wounds Suspect

Police say trouble on Pasadena Street began when approximately four people pulled up and began to assault a woman outside of a house.

A man inside the house came out to help her and that's when police say he was assaulted.

During that assault we're told the male victim was able to pull out a firearm and shoot one of the suspects in the leg.
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Monday, August 14, 2017

FL: Armed Good Samaritans Capture Knifeman who Attacked Woman

If it weren't for the actions of three strangers — an auto mechanic, a maintenance technician and a laser operator for a metal fabrication plant — it could have gone much worse.

Instead, three good Samaritans put their lives at risk, running toward an unknown danger to help a stranger. None knew their Sunday afternoon would include getting stabbed, wrestling a criminal to the ground after a wild foot chase or holding the man at gunpoint until police arrived.
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Followup NE: Domestic Defense, Ex-Boyfriend Shot

Evans looks as if he were beat rather severely, in the picture.

A prosecutor said Friday that Anthony Evans had shown up at the house of his ex-girlfriend and his three children several times before the night of Aug. 2, when officers found him lying in the backyard, a gunshot wound to his abdomen.

The shot was fired in self-defense, said Eric Fabian of the Douglas County Attorney’s Office.

It came, Fabian said, moments after Evans attacked his girlfriend, throwing her to the ground and choking her, then hitting her with a metal pipe as she tried to flee.

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PA: Shot Fired at Burglary Suspect

Upon forcing his way through a laundry room window at a home on Queneshaque Road about 6 a.m. Wednesday, alleged burglar Jason Robert Yahn was met by the homeowner, who was armed with a handgun, state Trooper James Doane said.
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LA: Knifeman Shot and Killed


Investigators said a man, who reportedly refused to leave someone’s property and allegedly was threatening residents with a knife, was shot and killed Thursday evening.

The Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff’s Office reported Ronald Morgan, 53, was found dead outside of a Ponchatoula home around 6:30 p.m.
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WI: Tenant Shoots Home Invader

The tenant at 417 S. Eighth St. shot Clifton Traywick with a pistol after Traywick entered the duplex about 6:55 a.m. with at least one other man.

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AZ: Dramatic Description of Domestic Defense Gunfight in Peoria

At this time, the victim’s brother happened to be returning home and saw her running, with Vandever chasing her. When he saw Vandever with a gun, he retrieved his handgun, from his truck. Vandever fired at him, and he returned fire striking, Vandever in the leg.

Police say a 14-year-old girl was hit in the cross fire. The girl was shot in the chest, the bullet clipping her lung, but missing her heart. She is on a breathing machine but is expected to survive.
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Sunday, August 13, 2017

President Roosevelt Liked Silenced Rifles

President Teddy Roosevelt was a big fan of silencers. The only silencers available to him were Maxim silencers. A silencer for his take-down model 94 Winchester 30-30, above, cost $9.70 in 1909.  He used the rifle frequently on his Sagamore Hill estate on Long Island, New York.  It was the classic use of a suppressed rifle. He used it to cull pests without disturbing his neighbors, the Duponts and the Tiffanys .

Whenever Winchester introduced a new model, Roosevelt was quick to put it through its paces. He acquired an 1894 similar to all his other rifles in extras and embellishments and used it on an antelope hunt. His "little .30" as he called it, was able to knock down a good sized antelope at a distance of more than 180 yds. After witnessing the fantastic shot and the irrefutable and immediate results, his guide said that the gun was just "aces" in his book. He also used a Model 94 outfitted with a Maxim silencer at his Long Island home "Sagamore Hill" so as not to disturb neighbors when varmints were in need of culling.
 The Sagamore take down 30-30 model 94 Winchester was not President Roosevelt's only silenced firearm. When he traveled to Africa for his specimen collecting Safari, he took two other silenced rifles.

The last case to be added to his Winchester cases to be loaded for the trip was case number 15. The contents of the case are shown below.

The ship left port in 1910. Notice that two rifles fitted with silencers were in crate number 15.  They were a "U.S. magazine rifle, M' 1908 chambered in .30 Govt.  It was fitted with illuminated sights. The other, a M'95 would be a lever gun chambered in 405 W.C.F.  The 405 Winchester is a powerful cartridge, as made clear by President Roosevelt's use of it to collect the rhinoceros pictured below. It is unknown if the rifle pictured was the M'95 that was fitted for a Maxim silencer.

From Theodore Roosevelt Hunter-Conservationist, published by Boone and Crocket, 2009, page 253, Loeb informed Winchester in 1910:
"And so on the 27th of February Loeb let Winchester know they would be receiving "from General Crozier [US. Army Ordnance] a Springfield rifle and a 405 Winchester rifle, both fitted with Maxim's silencers, and one of them with an arrangement for shooting at night, together with 200 Springfield cartridges. Please add t these 100 cartridges for the 405 Winchester and the cleaning apparatus, with oil, and have them put in a case that will enable the President to use them on the steamer..."
TR knew full well that he could hardly spend some three weeks at sea and resist the temptation to open his tin-lined cases and shoot. The two rifles with silencers would solve that problem nicely.
President Roosevelt understood and appreciated Maxim silencers. He used them for their intended purpose, to prevent annoyance of his neighbors and fellow travelers.

Silencers have the same purposes today, and today, we know how important they are to protect hearing when hunting or target shooting. When the Franklin Roosevelt administration made silencers prohibitively expensive and absurdly regulated for the common man, no one could explain why. No reason was given in the legislative history.

The regulation of silencers are likely to be reformed with the Hearing Protection Act, H.R. 367.

I suspect that if T.R. knew of the proposed legislation, he would say "Bully!", and heartily approve.

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IL: Chicago Homicide Self Defense by Woman against Man who Beat her

CHICAGO — A woman shot and killed a man after he beat her in Clearing early Sunday, police said.

At 5:18 a.m., the two were in the 6900 block of West 65th Street when the man, 33, hit the woman, 30, police said. The woman took out out a gun and shot the man, hitting him three times.
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NC: Domestic Defense, Gun Beats Bat and Gasoline


A man ignored an order of protection, went to his ex-girlfriend’s house with a container of gasoline and a baseball bat and attacked a man who shot him in self-defense, deputies say.

Joshua Cuthbertson went to his girlfriend’s home Monday, despite being aware of the order of protection prohibiting contact with her, Polk County deputies said.
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OH: Concealed Carry Permit Holder Holds Car Burglar for Police

The man — a CCW holder — reported that he spotted two suspects going through his neighbor’s car on Devonshire Drive just before 2 a.m. Thursday. He then grabbed his gun and ordered them to get on the ground until officers arrived.

According to a police report, one of the suspects managed to run away when the man yelled for his girlfriend to call the police.
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Followup MO: No CHarges in Death of Adam J. Harness

The 20-year-old man who resides at the apartment warned Harness that he would shoot him if he did not leave, Parks said. That’s when Harness attempted to assault the resident.

The resident shot Harness three to four times with a small-caliber handgun, authorities said.

Franklin County Prosecuting Attorney Bob Parks said the shooting was justifiable.
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Followup MI: Shooter Pleads Guilty to "Warning Shot" that Hit Police Officers

Juwan Plummer, 20, pleaded guilty on Monday before Judge Michael Hathaway to two counts of intentional discharge of a firearm in a building causing serious injury and two counts of felony firearm.

In an agreement with prosecutors, two counts of felonious assault were dismissed.

Plummer has said he had no intention of hurting police officers; that he thought they were burglars standing on the front porch of his home in the 20500 block of Lesure, near 8 Mile Rd. and Schaefer, last April. Believing his family was in danger, Plummer said he fired a warning shot to try to scare the strangers away before dialing 911.
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Saturday, August 12, 2017

Ammo Prices Drop: Vista Outdoors Looks to Direct Brand to Consumer Internet Sales

Vista Outdoors is one of the major players in ammunition production in the United States and the world. It owns CCI and Federal. With the decrease in demand for ammunition and for sporting goods, its stock price has dropped. A year a go it was over $50 per share. This spring it fell below $20 for a brief period. Most of the drop is likely due to a decreased demand for ammunition. Vista has a strategy to increase ammunition sales, or at least to keep market share and increase profits. From
Independent retailers and e-commerce will play a key role in helping Vista Outdoor regain momentum as it faces sluggish markets for ammunition and the products it sells for shooting, camping and other recreation.

That approach was unveiled Thursday in a conference call for stock market analysts after Vista Outdoor reported a dramatic drop in net income for April, May and June.

Net income was $16.6 million for the three months ending July 2, compared with $29.1 million for the same time last year at the company that employs about 1,375 people in its Lewiston ammunition operations, which have been shrinking through attrition.

Vista Outdoor's per-share stock price was $21.86 after the close of the market Thursday.Data indicate "consumers are buying, but just not to the extent they normally would this time of year," said Interim Chairman and CEO Michael Callahan.
What does this mean to the consumer? Will Vista enter the direct Internet to sales market that now includes many distributors such as AmmoMen, Outdoor Limited, Lucky Gunner, Target Sports, and many others? The plan is for the brands, such as Federal and CCI to have their own websites.

With the Internet, direct to consumer sales from the factory becomes possible. Is the interest of Federal or CCI served with a bypass of traditional wholesalers, distributors, and local gun shops?  Vista Outdoors would like both old and new methods to prosper.

The Internet is changing commerce in new and radical ways.  No doubt the local gun store will continue. It offers convenience, expertise, and a hands-on direct inspection of merchandise.

In July, the new CEO of Vista Outdoors said this. From
"The market, as you know, is really evolving right now," Callahan said. "I'm not sure I'd call it an apocalypse, but certainly the retail market is in a turmoil. What we're seeing and what a lot of companies have to do is adapt now to how consumers want to shop and where they want to shop."
A box of a well known brand of ammunition is expected to be the same if you buy it at the local gun store or in a case delivered to your doorstep.

May both means thrive in the future. The owners of industrial concerns retain only a small portion of increased productivity. Historically, most of the increase has gone to workers and consumers. It is why the standard of living has soared in the last two centuries.

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CCI opens new .22 Rimfire Production Facility in Idaho

.22 Rimfire case block being filled and checked at old CCI plant in Lewiston, Idaho
Vista Outdoors opened their new rimfire production facility in Lewiston, Idaho on 10 August, 2017. The new facility covers 37,000 square feet.

Vista Oudoors owns the CCI and Federal ammunition brands. They are major suppliers of .22 rimfire ammunition for the United States. The CCI facility in Lewiston, Idaho has been running almost non-stop to attempt to meet demand in the United States for the last four years. It produces about 4 million .22 rimfire rounds a day.

To meed the increased structural demand for .22 rimfire, Vista Outdoors made the decision to increase rimfire production, years ago. The plan has been in process. The new plant automates the production to modern standards. Much of the new machinery was designed by CCI engineers. From the Lewiston Tribune:
The latest addition provides room for a variety of proprietary equipment used to make .22-caliber rimfire ammunition.

Much of the equipment was designed by company engineers, in cooperation with outside vendors. The focus, Mackleit said, is on "continuous flow" - starting out with raw material and moving through to the finished product in a sequence of steps without building any pockets of inventory along the way.

The result, he said, has been a substantial and "very satisfying" reduction in the time needed to complete an order.

This 10 minute video of how .22 ammunition is made at CCI was made a few years ago by 22Plinkster. It shows how the old process produced .22 ammunition. I recommend it to see how high quality .22 rimfire ammunition is made on an industrial scale. The priming segment particularly interesting. It was still done partly by hand, likely for safety reasons.

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Perhaps a new video will be made of the plant that opened on 10 August, 2017.

.22 rimfire ammunition has been slowly increasing in availability and dropping in price for months. Production is gradually meeting pent up demand. The new CCI plant will speed up that process. 

The lowest priced .22 ammunition consistently available is the Aguila brand. On the Internet, prices have been about 4.2 cents per round. Aguila quality control is said to have been increased significantly in recent years. Aguila nearly doubled its ammunition production over the last four years.  Aguila uses an Ely priming process. They are striving to get and keep a significant market share of North American demand.

The CCI plant can be seen as work by Vista Outdoors to keep its share of the market. It has brand recognition, an excellent reputation, and is the major player in the market. To keep that position, CCI .22 rimfire prices will need to be competitive.

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Followup AL: Woman Suspected of Home Invasion Charged with Felony Murder

A Guntersville woman has been indicted on a murder charge after authorities allege she solicited a man to assault a Baileyton homeowner who then shot and killed his attacker in April.

A Cullman County grand jury found probable cause to charge Kelly Joan Young Bryan, 41, with two counts of criminal solicitation for burglary and assault in addition to felony murder.
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AL: Armed Driver Stops Robbery Attempt

Lieutenant Brian Smith says a passenger tried to force the driver out of a vehicle while traveling through the parking lot of the LaQuinta Inn.

Both men got out of the car and the driver fired a shot into the air.

The passenger ran away but was arrested a short time later. He's charged with robbery.
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SC: Homeowner Shoots Delusional Man who Threatened him

A man is facing charges after authorities say he was shot in the leg by a homeowner he threatened.

Cody Brandon Driver, 29, of 727 Bulls Horne Road, Abbeville, was arrested Tuesday and charged with third-degree assault and battery.
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SC: Deranged Man Loads AR-15, Flees Pawnshop Under Fire

"While inspecting the rifle, the subject took out a loaded magazine for an AR-15 that he had on his person and inserted it into the (rifle)," he said. "He then began to shoot into the store and at two of the employees inside of the store."

A store employee returned fire and the suspect, later identified as Westfall, fled the store, Cochran said.

Deputies found him in a wooded area behind the pawnshop, he said. He still had the AR-15 rifle in his possession and was taken into custody without further incident.
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AZ: Overdosing Drug User Shot after Invading Home

The homeowner reported to police that a stranger entered his home and his bedroom. He said the man was "grunting and yelling incoherently," as he advanced toward him.

The victim fired from his handgun, striking Soto in the shoulder and upper arm.

Soto has been charged with criminal trespassing.

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Friday, August 11, 2017

Australian Gun Culture (part 13): Maxim Memorital, Ben Hall Wall

Driving south from Quirindi in the Gunnedah Shire in New South Wales, Australia, there is a war memorial. It started as a war memorial for the Great War of 1914 to 1918,  World War II and Vietnam were added later. The names of the dead and those who served are reverently listed.

On top is a Maxim machine gun. A few parts are missing. I could not determine if it was a captured gun or one used on the side of the British and Australians. It struck me as being remarkably complete, though there were layers of thick paint and I could not see the internals.

I seldom see machine guns in memorials in the United States, though artillery pieces and tanks are common.  There were several variants of the Maxim. It was a very successful machine gun, used for many wars, with improved versions in the Vickers and the German MG08. 

The Australians are a patriotic folk who admire their servicemen and women. 

The memorial likely contains a number of useful Maxim parts. The Australians have a very low crime rate, especially in the country. It is nice to see this memorial remain unmolested.

On the same road, next to the war memorial is a memorial to one of Australia's great bush rangers, Ben Hall. An Australian bush ranger is rather like an American Jesse James, without the Civil War. In Australia, Jesse James is considered an American bush ranger.

There is not much pistol play in Australian folk lore. Ben Hall is one of the few examples. Australians have been a pretty law abiding folk, the aborigines were completely outclassed by the European weapons organization, and agriculture. There was no great power threatening Australia with a land border. England ruled the seas, so Australia was protected until World War II.

It is hard to see what pistols Ben is using for his wealth redistribution efforts in the mural. It was too early for cartridge revolvers. Ben Halls actions happened from about 1862 to 1865. In 1865, he was shot and killed from ambush by police. Ben is not known to have killed anyone.

He is reported to have used a Colt .31 caliber pocket revolver, a Colt 1851 Navy, a Tranter 1856 .38 percussion revolver, and a double barreled percussion pistol.

The revolvers were state of the art weaponry at the time. The Colt revolvers were reported as stolen from the NSW police.

The Australian gun laws were gradually being tightened before 1996. There was also a growing and popular gun culture.

Now, after enacting some of the most repressive and strict gun laws in the developed world, slow reforms are being made. The numbers of gun owners are increasing, and some sanity is being applied to the law.

Original percussion revolvers are supposed to be considered non-guns. That is subject to much interpretation. Donald Eykamp paid a heavy price for having some original Colt percussion revolvers at his house. The revolvers were not locked up in a safe.

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TX: Woman Uses .357 Magnum to Deter Burglary Suspect

Police say a man broke into a home on the 400 block of Millwood around 9:35 a.m. Tuesday. Police say the suspect got into the garage of the home and then entered the kitchen. A woman inside heard a noise in the garage and grabbed her .357 handgun. A police report states the woman and the man then spotted one another, and the suspect ran out of the house. Investigators say the woman followed the suspect to see where he was going and fired one round in his direction "out of fear that he may return."
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FL: Armed VIctim Shoots Robber, Unarmed Victim is Shot

JSO said two men tried to rob two different victims near 4200 University Blvd N.

In the first situation, a male victim was shot by two black males in front of the Prime Time Food Store (4275 University Blvd N, Jacksonville, FL 32277).

A second shooting took place on Polo Court, which is the street behind the Prime Time Food Store. The suspect was shot by the victim that he was trying to rob. The other suspect fled.

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GA: Howmowner Shoots, Kills, Intruder

A homeowner shot and killed an intruder in self-defense late Monday on Kingsberry Street, according to Columbus police.

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TX: Gunfight, Robber Shoots Armed Victim, Runs Off

The robber, who was armed with a handgun, approached the victim at around 12:50 a.m. Tuesday near the Glen Oaks apartments in the 5100 block of Sanger and demanded money.

“The victim pulled his gun and began shooting at the suspect,” Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said.

“The suspect then shot the victim striking him in the right leg.”
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FL: Three Stabbed Before Good Samaritan with Gun Stops Attack

SEMINOLE, FL — Two good Samaritans suffered stab wounds on Sunday when they tried to come to a woman’s aid in a Publix parking lot in Seminole. That’s when Pinellas County deputies say a third good Samaritan with a gun stepped in and put an end to the struggle without firing a shot.
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Thursday, August 10, 2017

TX: Armed Homeownner Captures Teen Burglar at Gunpoint

Notice the positive comment by Sherman Police.

When he got home, Debord said he heard someone upstairs, so he grabbed his gun and went to confront the intruder.

He found the culprit, a teenage boy, hiding in the corner of a bedroom.

"Obeying every command that I had for him,” Debord said. “You know, hands up. Stay there. Don't move."

Sherman Police arrived and took the boy into juvenile custody.
(snip) (from police Sgt. Hampton)

"It's just not worth it. Don't break into people's homes." Hampton said. “They work hard for what they have. They have the right to defend themselves.”

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IL: Chicago CCW Holder Fires Back

The concealed carry holder, 39, was driving a white 2015 Dodge Charger south in the 9500 block of South Stony Island Avenue just before 1:25 a.m. when someone in a 2007 Chevy Equinox fired at him, police said.

The man returned fire, causing the Equinox to crash. The suspect ran from the scene, police said.

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WA: Intruder Shot While Breaking into Apartment

A man broke into a Puyallup apartment late Sunday and got a bullet for his trouble.

The 33-year-old man who lived in the home welcomed the intruder with a pistol and quickly fired two shots when the he burst through the door.

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Followup OH: Domestic Defense, 64-Year-Old Son Shot by 85-Year-Old Father, Defending 84-Year-Old Mother

Guernsey County Sheriff's Deputy Sam Williams said Carl Jeffery King was fatally wounded by a small caliber rifle after initiating a violent altercation with his parents.

Williams said victim's mother called 911 at approximately 7:45 p.m. stating that her son had come home intoxicated and threatened to kill her.

While the 84-year-old woman was on the phone with a dispatcher, her son emerged from a bedroom with a handgun and began firing at her.

The woman's 85-year-old husband, was able to retrieve a small caliber rifle from the kitchen and returned fire. Williams said about a dozen rounds were fired between the two men before King was mortally wounded.
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Followup TX: Police Seek Suspect in Home Invasion Shooting

Police said Jalen Cole, 18, and another man broke in wearing masks and attempted to rob the home. People inside the apartment started shooting back and Cole was shot. He later died in the street. His accomplice ran away.

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AR: Gunfight, Firearm Beats BB Gun, Robber Shot, Killed

"An employee of the restaurant reported that Price entered the store," police wrote. "Price asked to see the manager, then brandished and cycled a handgun. At this point the employee, who was armed with a handgun, shot and killed Price."

The statement said "indisputable evidence" shows Price enter the store armed with a handgun and later brandishing it. It did not specify whether that evidence was surveillance footage.

The weapon Price held was later determined to be a BB gun "that functioned like a semi-automatic handgun," police wrote.
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AZ: Armed Victim Stops Robbery, Accidentaly Shots Self in Leg

A spokesperson for Mesa police tells 12 News that a man showing up for work at Cindy’s CafĂ© was confronted outside the business by an armed assailant. The victim then pulled out his own handgun in order to defend himself.

Police believe that gun went off accidently striking the man in the leg. The armed robber ran off.
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Wednesday, August 09, 2017

Slight, 61-Year-Old Musician with Carry Permit, Stops Big Teen Robber video

 On July 30, 2017, a 61-Year-Old, mild mannered musician, Darius Summers, walked down to the local gas station for a cup of coffee. He had recently obtained a concealed carry permit. Darius is not a large man. A local miscreant "made" Darius, and saw that Darius was armed. He decided that he would rob Darius of his gun.  The store video shows what happened.

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It did not turn out well for the large, armed, thuggish teenager. Darius lulled the suspect into a false sense of security. Then he accessed his pistol and shot the would be armed robber. It was a nicely executed bit of misdirection.  It illustrates the old saw: "Old age and treachery beat youth and skill." From
He said a 16-year-old boy armed with a gun saw that Summers was also armed, and the teen tried to take his weapon. He stuck his gun in Summers' back, thinking he was an older, easier target.

"I said, 'All I want to do is leave,'" Summers said. "He said, 'You can't leave.' I said, 'OK. What do you want to do?'"

Summers said the teen was controlling him, but then the 61-year-old man pulled out his own gun and shot the boy in the stomach. The teen picked up the gun that he dropped and limped out of the store.
 The size, strength, and agility advantages were all on the side of the armed robbery suspect. He even knew that Darius was armed. Darius' handgun and tactics more than evened the odds, allowing him to prevail and likely prevent untold future crimes.

Detroit Police Chief James Craig has championed the right of residents to have concealed carry permits and to fight back. Homicides in Detroit have bucked the trend in cities where the police have been disparaged by the Obama Justice department, cities like Baltimore, MD, and Chicago, Ill. In Detroit, murders leveled off from 2014, and dropped 10% from the levels of 2013.  In 2013, there were 332 murders; in 2016, 302. In Detroit, Chief Craig is very popular.

In the Ferguson Effect, homicides rose after police pulled back from inner cities, murders rose as much as 90%. Cities where the administrations claim that armed citizens are part of the problem, not part of the solution.  From
2015 closed with a 17 percent increase in homicides in the 56 largest cities, a nearly unprecedented one-year spike. Twelve cities with large black populations saw murders rise anywhere from 54 percent in the case of the District to 90 percent in Cleveland. Baltimore’s per capita murder rate was the highest in its history in 2015.
Baltimore's high murder rate stayed high in 2016.

Armed citizens may not make a large difference in the numbers of murders. The decline in the Detroit murder rate is not huge. But having a gun gives an average older man a good chance against a large, young one.

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MI: Teen Tries to Steal Gun, Gets Shot by 61-Year-Old Musician

He said a 16-year-old boy armed with a gun saw that Summers was also armed, and the teen tried to take his weapon. He stuck his gun in Summers' back, thinking he was an older, easier target.

"I said, 'All I want to do is leave,'" Summers said. "He said, 'You can't leave.' I said, 'OK. What do you want to do?'"

Summers said the teen was controlling him, but then the 61-year-old man pulled out his own gun and shot the boy in the stomach. The teen picked up the gun that he dropped and limped out of the store.
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FL: Rape Survivor Says Campus Carry Would have Made a Difference

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - Pro-campus carry legislators have promised to bring back the issue next session. Florida is one of 20 states that ban any form of campus carry.

Some students say they would feel unsafe if guns were allowed on university campuses, but a survivor of sexual assault said her attack changed her mind on the issue.
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FL: Elderly Homeowner Shoots, Kills Home Invader

LAKELAND, Fla. (WFLA) — Hillsborough County sheriff’s deputies are conducting a death investigation in Lakeland.

Investigators say it appears elderly homeowners on Deeson Road were woken up by an unknown intruder in their home.

The male homeowner shot the intruder, according to detectives, and the intruder died at the scene.
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SC: Man Kills 1 of 2 Pitt Bulls that Invaded Porch, Attacked Yorkie

The man told officers two pit bulls approached his home and tore through a screened-in porch that housed his Yorkie. One of the pit bulls grabbed the smaller dog and started biting it, the man said in the report, so he "attempted every avenue possible" to remove the dogs from the Yorkie.


His wife then retrieved a 12-gauge Remington shotgun. He told officers "he had no other choice" but to shoot at the dogs. He said he shot one dog at point blank range on the porch, instantly killing it, according to the report. Police said they found spent shotgun shells on the porch.
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Tuesday, August 08, 2017

Australian Gun Culture (part 12): Amnesty of 2017 Halfway Through

.44 Magnum S&W and Browning Auto-5 turned in at 2017 Australian Amnesty

Australia is undergoing a gun "amnesty", the first general one since 1996, when some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world were imposed on Australia. The federal guidelines were fast tracked by the hoplophobic Prime Minister, John Howard, with substantial aid by the anti-gun Australian media, during the emotional effect of the Port Arthur massacre.

Since being declared a month ago, 1700 rifles, 460 shotguns and nearly 200 handguns have been surrendered and thousands more firearms submitted for registration.

Surrendered items include four SKS assault rifles, a 9mm homemade sub-machine gun, a Colt AR-15 rifle, M1 carbine, a .44 calibre Magnum revolver, and a Leader Dynamics T2 MK5 assault rifle.

Police have also received more than 110 prohibited weapons including samurai swords, knives, knuckle-dusters and other edged weapons, Forensic Services detective chief inspector Wayne Hoffman told media on Tuesday.
This firearms amnesty differs in significant ways from the mandatory turn-in during 1996. In that turn-in, people were required to turn in the guns, and were paid for them.  In this amnesty, there is no government compensation for turned in guns. People can have the guns sent to a gun dealer to be sold, or they can register them if they already have the appropriate license. The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers party can be thanked for that bit of sanity.

A week ago, I talked to an employee of Tamworth Firearms, one of the biggest gun stores in Australia. I asked about the amnesty, and how it was going.  He said that under a hundred guns had been turned in at the store.  Most had been registered with someone who already had a license.  All were common rifles and shotguns. There were no high dollar items. The shop charges 20 dollars to register the guns. If the person registering them already has a license, they can leave with their newly registered gun in a few minutes.

I ran into this American Family at the Tamworth Firearms shop

On the 9th of August, I stopped at the Tamworth shop. A policeman was there delivering a shotgun to be registered.  It was a very nice high grade French 16 gauge.

One of shop personel allowed me to look. Double triggers, internal hammers, solid rib. Simply lovely. It was made by Henri Gaymu in Paris, probably about 1900. Scroll engraving covered the receiver. Many French records were destroyed in WWII. Gaymu was a well known manufacturer of quality guns. Any other information on Gaymu shotguns would be appreciated.

About 6400 guns have been turned in or registered in New South Wales so far. The article from AAP says that almost 2,360 firearms were turned in. That means that over 4 thousand unregistered guns have been registered under this amnesty.

Samurai swords are listed as prohibited weapons. There are many replicas on the market. Australia was heavily involved in the Pacific island fighting. It  is likely that one of the swords turned is a WWII bringback. Some of them are worth tens of thousands of dollars.

I hope that someone with a sense of history is looking at the items turned in.

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Falling Bullet Injuries: Pakistan v. U.S.

Image from the Shillong Times

Celebratory gunfire is dangerous. Those who engage in it may not consider where their bullets will land.

Thirteen year old Noa Inman in Hammond, Indiana, was struck by a bullet on July 1st, 2017. He died from a wound to the head. Such clearcut examples are rare enough to become national news stories. From
Noah Inman, of the 1600 block of 171st Pl. in Hammond, was pronounced dead at 2:06 p.m. Friday, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner's office.
Surprisingly few deaths from celebratory gunfire are listed in the wikipedia article.  The wikipedia article lists about a dozen "notable incidents".

A 1994 study in Los Angeles lists 38 people killed over the eight years of the study. 77% of the 118 people listed as being hit suffered from head wounds. The study may have suffered from selection bias, as it only looked at people treated in the hospital. Those wounded had a fatality rate of 32%. People deliberately shot in Chicago have a fatality rate of about 15%.

A more recent study from Pakistan looked at "stray bullet injuries". It showed a fatality rate of 7.87% for a sample of 165 patients over 5 years, from January 2006 to December 2010. Chest injuries were 18 (10.9%), Abdominal injuries were 102 (61.81%), Spine injuries were 17 (10.3) percent and head injuries were 8 (4.84%).  There were multiple injuries in 20 cases.

The differences may stem from different definitions of "stray gunfire". They may result frim demographics, or cultural definitions, or study design. In both studies, there may be strong motivations to label gunshot wounds as "accidents" that were actually part of deliberate crimes, or tribal and gang warfare.

If fired at a very steep angle, the bullets will impact at velocities of about 300 fps or less, according to estimates of terminal velocity. People who fire into the air at angles closer to horizontal pose the greatest danger. Bullets from high powered rifles can maintain velocities near 600 feet per second at close to two miles. The lists the velocity of a 180 grain .30-06 bullet at 589 fps at 3500 yards. A 7.62x39 bullet with a weight of 124 grains is listed at traveling at 575 fps at the same distance.

Shotgun pellets fired into the air have such low terminal velocities that they bounce off of ordinary clothing.

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Followup ID: Twin Falls Shooting of William Newton Scott was Self Defense

TWIN FALLS - Twin Falls police and the Twin Falls County Prosecuting Attorney's Office have concluded that a man acted in self-defense when he fatally shot another man at the Creekside Trailer Court in May.

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Followup OR: Conviction of Mentally Ill Man Who Attacked Hunter Overturned

He didn't knowingly and intelligently waive his Miranda rights, and incriminating statements made during the interview should not have been allowed at his March 2015 trial, the court said.

Washington County deputies arrested Norgren in October 2013, saying the 20-year-old was naked when he hit a 58-year-old hunter with a rock and tried to choke him in woods west of Portland.

Despite suffering multiple injuries, the hunter, Jeff McDonald, fought back and held his attacker at gunpoint until authorities arrived. Norgren was lying in a fetal position.
McDonald told The Oregonian/OregonLive after the trial that he asked Norgren during their struggle: "Why are you trying to kill me?" He said Norgren replied, "'Sasquatch kills the hunter.'"

Jurors convicted Norgren of assault and attempted murder, and Washington County Judge Thomas Kohl sentenced him to 10 years in prison.

The case now returns to county court.
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TX: Gunfight at Food Mart, Owner Wounded, Suspect Killed

It happened at Lakewood Food Mart on Cedar Point near Grant Road at around 10:30 p.m. Thursday.

Authorities say the 26-year-old male suspect entered the store and shot the owner during a holdup. The owner, who was wounded, grabbed his own gun and shot the robber.

Both the owner and robber were transported to the hospital, where the suspect died. The owner is recovering from his injury.

A family friend said the owner has two young children and a wife.
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Followup MN: LaCount Says Legal Ability to Carry Gun Saved Him

The dispute between the two men began when one accused the other of not owning up to putting a dent in his vehicle.

It ended months later with the accuser shot in the head at the Minnetonka ministorage facility where the rift began — and with police backing up the killer’s claim that his actions were self-defense.

Following the strong recommendation of investigators, the Hennepin County attorney’s office said this week that 65-year-old James LaCount, of Minnetonka, will not be prosecuted for fatally shooting Thomas Luetzow on June 23 at the Public Mini Storage in the 2800 block of Hedberg Drive.
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FL: Gun Beats Stick in Self Defense Shooting over Woman

Harrell S. Jeffries, 56, said he was asleep in his camper when William H. Markham barged in and beat him with a stick. Jeffries, whose camper is close to a wooded area off a narrow dirt road and is surrounded by other residences in rural Marion County, said he managed to grab a gun and fired shots at the 48-year-old man.

“I was protecting myself,” said Jeffries on Thursday, standing next to a pickup truck just yards from his camper. His left hand was bandaged from his elbow to his fingers and Jeffries said it is broken. His head had staples in it and he said his ribs were still sore from the blows from the stick.

Asked how many times he shot at the deceased, Jeffries said “I don’t know.”

“I tried to protect myself from dying,” he added.
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Monday, August 07, 2017

Gun Store Owner Settles with Statement after 5 years of Lawsuit by Gun Control Group

In 2012, a mentally ill man named Benjamin Bishop shot and killed his mother and her boyfriend in cold blood. He was forbidden from owning a gun or ammunition, but a friend Matthew Schwab purchased the gun for him at a local gun shop. 

The Brady lawsuit alleged that Bishop attempted to buy a gun at the shop before his friend purchased the shotgun for him.

There does not appear to be any evidence that Bishop had been turned down for a background check at the store. From
Tanso vehemently denied Bishop ever tried to buy a gun in his store. He said there is no record his name was ever submitted for a background check from the store, and added that Bishop was 17 at the time and could not have been sold a firearm.

Bishop asked an 18-year-old neighbor to buy a gun and went with him to the store, the complaint states. The shop sold the neighbor a 12-gauge shotgun, the complaint states.

Tanso says Bishop’s friend lied on the government form, saying he was buying the gun for himself. Tanso said the teen said he wanted to use the gun at a shooting range, which Tanso said is typical for an 18-year-old. Tanso said Bishop was with his friend at the time of the purchase, but store employees had no reason to question him because they had never seen him before.
Lock N Load is a large gun store. It is quite likely that the store employee who sold the gun to Schwab had never seen Bishop before, even if he had previously been in the store. 

Local papers treated the claim that Bishop had been turned down in the store as if it were fact: From
A Lock N Load employee initially refused to sell to him after learning he had a criminal record, according to investigators. So Bishop came back with a friend, Oldsmar resident Matthew Schwab, who bought the gun for him.
Bishop couldn't legally buy the gun because he had a criminal record and had even been turned away from Lock N Load when he attempted to buy one while on probation earlier that fall, according to the lawsuit. But in October, Bishop returned to Lock N Load with his neighbor, Matthew Schwab, 18, the lawsuit states. Schwab bought the shotgun with $279 in cash and then turned it over to Bishop, who told him he needed it to defend himself from gang members. Schwab never faced charges. states on clear falsehood. They say that the firearm sold was a "sawed-off, 12 gauge shotgun". From TBO:
Bishop's father, Joey Bishop, and his maternal grandmother, Jean Allen, are listed as plaintiffs on the Brady Center's lawsuit, which says Tanso should be held liable for the mentally ill teen obtaining the sawed-off, 12-gauge shotgun used in the killings.
No other reporter, in numerous articles, ever alleged that the shotgun was "sawed-off". 

No federal charges were brought against the gun store owner. It seems unlikely that federal investigators would have let the store go unprosecuted in the Obama era, if there were any evidence to back up the claim in the lawsuit.  The alleged straw buyer was not prosecuted as part of his agreement to act as a state witness. The idea that a cooperative straw buyer would not implicate the store where he committed the crime, if there were any thing to implicate, seems absurd.

The Brady lawsuit against the gun store owner dragged on for five years. The settlement was reached after Donald Trump was elected president.  The terms of the settlement have not all been revealed. The store was sold to another owner, and will continue in business. No extra-statutory restrictions have been placed on the operation of the store.  The former store owner, Gerald Tanso, has agreed not to obtain another federal firearms license in the future.  In effect, he sold his business and retired at age 61.

The gun control group attorney has attempted to make the settlement into a victory. The attorney says that Tanso has agreed to make a public statement. From
Tanso's statement says, in part: "Our Second Amendment protects the rights of law abiding citizens and we must protect those rights. At the same time, we must exercise great caution and due diligence with great responsibility in preventing firearms from getting in the wrong hands of people who seek to harm us all. I support laws that protect our Second Amendment and the laws that protect our society from criminal elements who would abuse that right to the detriment of others. I encourage all gun dealers, including the new owner of my gun shop, to implement such measures."
The full actual statement does not appear to have been made public at this time.

Large gun stores near urban areas have large numbers of guns that are eventually traced to criminal use. The reason is statistically clear. Large gun stores sell lots of guns. Urban centers have lots of crime. Criminals figure ways to get guns through theft or having friends or family purchase them illegally.

Most gun stores are small operations in rural areas. Simply by existing, urban area gun shops end up having the highest numbers of guns that are traced to crimes.

The anti-Second Amendment groups characterize these large gun shops near urban areas as "bad apple" gun stores, even though the stores keep scrupulous records and are extremely careful to follow the law.

My take on the recent events? The gun store owner had been worn down by five years of frivolous litigation. The Brady bunch knew they had a losing suit, especially after President Trump was elected and Jeff Sessions was the AG.  They could not expect moral support for their losing cause from the White House and the Attorney General.

Both sides settled with a face saving agreement. The Brady bunch gets a generic statement about preventing guns from getting to criminals. Gerald Tanso gets to sell his store and retire.

We will likely never know the exact terms of the settlement. It is common for such settlements to include a non-disclosure agreement. It will be interesting to see the precise wording of the statement from former gun store owner Gerald Tanso.

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"Fleeing" Suspect Shoots at Clerk in Victorville Youtube Video

On August 1st, 2017, in Victorville, California, a suspect attempted to rob the Star Market on 7th St. In the image above, the armed robbery suspect is "fleeing" the scene.  A clerk pulled out his gun, and the suspect took off. The suspect was armed and brandishing a gun when the clerk accessed his defensive weapon.

Many will tell you that once an attacker starts to flee, they are not a deadly threat and cannot be legally engaged with gunfire. In cases where the attack is committed with hands and feet, or with a contact weapon, that may be true.

It does not apply to an attacker armed with a firearm or other weapon that can reach out and apply deadly force from a distance. An attacker may appear to be fleeing. They may be seeking a tactical advantage. They may turn and fire at any moment.

Armed with a weapon that is deadly at a distance, they are still a deadly threat.  In the video, the "fleeing" suspect fires a shot at the clerk in the next fraction of a second. The shot shatters the store window, and no one was hit.

Link to video

VICTORVILLE, Calif. (KABC) -- A man brandished a gun at a store clerk in Victorville and then fled in fear, firing off a shot as the clerk brought out his own weapon, officials said.

The incident happened at the Star Market on Seventh Street Tuesday night.

The robbery suspect was clearly a threat before he started to flee. The video is an illustration of the danger of a "fleeing" attacker armed with a firearm.

Do not assume, just because an attacker is moving away from you, that the threat has ended. In this case, the threat continued until the attacker was out of sight.

©2017 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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